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If asked to compile a list of economists’ mistakes over the last decade, I would not know where to start. Somewhere near the top would be failure to predict the global financial crisis. Even higher on the list would be failure to agree, five years later, on its cause. Is this fair? Not according to Noah Smith: these, he says, were not errors of economics but of macroeconomics. Microeconomics is the good economics, where economists by and large agree, conduct controlled experiments that confirm or modify established theory and lead to all sorts of welfare-enhancing outcomes.
To which I respond with two words: minimum wage.
One of the first things we learn in microeconomics is that demand curves slope down: raising the price of something reduces the quantity demanded. A minimum wage should reduce the demand for low-skilled workers as surely as a price floor on milk will reduce the amount bought.
Yet ask any two economists – macro, micro, whatever – whether raising the minimum wage will reduce employment for the low skilled, and odds are you will get two answers. Sometimes more. (By contrast, ask them if raising interest rates will reduce output within a year or two, and almost all – that is, excepting real-business cycle purists – will say yes.)
Are there reasons a higher minimum wage will not have the textbook effect? Of course. And a great deal of research has gone into trying to determine them: perhaps the demand for low-skilled labour is highly inelastic in certain circumstances. Perhaps employers have monopsonistic power and set both wages and the level of employment below equilibrium levels. Perhaps there are offsetting general equilibrium effects, e.g. if low-wage workers spend more of their income than their employers or customers, then shifting income from the latter to the former raises aggregate demand. And so on.
But microeconomists are kidding themselves if they think this plethora of plausible explanations makes their branch of economics any more scientific or respectable than standard macroeconomics. Microeconomists and macroeconomists working in good faith approach their problems with open minds, trying to develop models then figure out why they do, or don’t, yield the predicted results. There may be instances where macroeconomists build models that are mutually exclusive, and then win Nobel prizes for them (again, see Noah Smith). That is the exception; generally, what we see over time is macroeconomists building on each others’ work; rational expectations, sticky wages and financial frictions have all been used to refine, rather than supplant, basic macro models. Still, in both macro and micro, economists develop views and pursue research that tends to confirm those views.
What is true of all economics is that as soon as you wander into policy, you find the debate hijacked by policy advocates who write, report and promote research that reinforces their side of the debate while ignoring or disparaging the other. Do higher capital requirements reduce lending? (Yes: it raises the cost of capital! No: Modigliani-Miller tells us firms are indifferent to capital structure! Yes: banks aren’t like other firms!) Do higher marginal tax rates reduce the work effort and tax paid by the rich? (No: their labour supply is inelastic! Yes: They reclassify their income to avoid taxes!) Does Obamacare hurt part time employment? Does it lower labour supply? Do tougher emissions requirements cost jobs? Does net neutrality lead to more investment in technology? Or less?
It is fair to say that when it comes to the minimum wage, Barack Obama is a policy advocate, not an economist. Tonight in his State of the Union Address, he will repeat his call to raise the federal minimum wage. Today he has announced he will use his executive authority to entitle employees of federal contractors to a higher minimum wage. In its release the White House says:
The White House also says:
Microeconomics tells us that it is far more efficient to abolish the minimum wage and address poverty directly through the earned income tax credit or wage subsidies. This would imply that McDonald’s is actually enhancing social welfare by encouraging its employees to take advantage of food stamps and other safety net programmes. Economists know this, yet many advocate a higher minimum wage and disparage McDonald’s anyway. Why? As Noah Smith points out in a different post, “Probably because "earned" income gives people a feeling of dignity, while "handouts" reduce dignity.” (In some cases, it’s because Congress won’t offer up more money for the working poor, so a higher minimum wage is a second best solution; but as Republicans get behind wage subsidies, that may change.) In this case, economists are not acting as economists, but as philosophers.
They are doing the same in the debate over income inequality. Economists can offer explanations for why inequality has risen and what might reverse it, but they cannot advance positive reasons for what the right level of inequality is; this is function of social preferences outside the realm of empirical or even theoretical economics. (At least, they can’t make the case on microeconomic grounds. There are macroeconomic reasons to fret over higher inequality because shifting income from the high consuming poor to the high saving rich reduces aggregate demand.) Fundamentally, economists are troubled by inequality for the same reason non-economists are: it doesn’t seem right.(The Economist)
One of the first things we learn in microeconomics is that demand curves slope down: raising the price of something reduces the quantity demanded. A minimum wage should reduce the demand for low-skilled workers as surely as a price floor on milk will reduce the amount bought.
Yet ask any two economists – macro, micro, whatever – whether raising the minimum wage will reduce employment for the low skilled, and odds are you will get two answers. Sometimes more. (By contrast, ask them if raising interest rates will reduce output within a year or two, and almost all – that is, excepting real-business cycle purists – will say yes.)
Are there reasons a higher minimum wage will not have the textbook effect? Of course. And a great deal of research has gone into trying to determine them: perhaps the demand for low-skilled labour is highly inelastic in certain circumstances. Perhaps employers have monopsonistic power and set both wages and the level of employment below equilibrium levels. Perhaps there are offsetting general equilibrium effects, e.g. if low-wage workers spend more of their income than their employers or customers, then shifting income from the latter to the former raises aggregate demand. And so on.
But microeconomists are kidding themselves if they think this plethora of plausible explanations makes their branch of economics any more scientific or respectable than standard macroeconomics. Microeconomists and macroeconomists working in good faith approach their problems with open minds, trying to develop models then figure out why they do, or don’t, yield the predicted results. There may be instances where macroeconomists build models that are mutually exclusive, and then win Nobel prizes for them (again, see Noah Smith). That is the exception; generally, what we see over time is macroeconomists building on each others’ work; rational expectations, sticky wages and financial frictions have all been used to refine, rather than supplant, basic macro models. Still, in both macro and micro, economists develop views and pursue research that tends to confirm those views.
What is true of all economics is that as soon as you wander into policy, you find the debate hijacked by policy advocates who write, report and promote research that reinforces their side of the debate while ignoring or disparaging the other. Do higher capital requirements reduce lending? (Yes: it raises the cost of capital! No: Modigliani-Miller tells us firms are indifferent to capital structure! Yes: banks aren’t like other firms!) Do higher marginal tax rates reduce the work effort and tax paid by the rich? (No: their labour supply is inelastic! Yes: They reclassify their income to avoid taxes!) Does Obamacare hurt part time employment? Does it lower labour supply? Do tougher emissions requirements cost jobs? Does net neutrality lead to more investment in technology? Or less?
It is fair to say that when it comes to the minimum wage, Barack Obama is a policy advocate, not an economist. Tonight in his State of the Union Address, he will repeat his call to raise the federal minimum wage. Today he has announced he will use his executive authority to entitle employees of federal contractors to a higher minimum wage. In its release the White House says:
A range of economic studies show that modestly raising the minimum wage increases earnings and reduces poverty without jeopardizing employment.Well, “range” is a pretty imprecise word. There’s also a range of studies that shows raising the minimum wage doesn’t reduce poverty and does jeopardize employment.
The White House also says:
Low wages are also bad for business, as paying low wages lowers employee morale, encourages low productivity, and leads to frequent employee turnover—all of which impose costs.Here the White House violates another axiom of microeconomics: it has argued that compelling someone to do something they wouldn’t do voluntarily makes them better off. Under what assumptions can forcing a business to pay a higher wage be good for its business? The White House press release, which also cites the example of retailer Costco which pays well above the minimum wage, seems to invoke efficiency wage theory. This theory, which incoming Federal Reserve chairwoman Janet Yellen helped develop, suggests firms may pay above the market-clearing wage because to pay less would damage morale and productivity and raise turnover. This theory can certainly explain why some firms, such as Costco, sometimes choose to pay above the market wage. But it cannot justify forcing all firms to do so all the time. This would presume that numerous firms are systematically hurting themselves through their small-minded refusal to pay more. Sure, there are situations where people can be forced into doing something that makes them better off (wearing a seatbelt, getting vaccinated) but is it plausible that WalMart or McDonald’s know their own business so poorly that they are systematically hurting themselves by paying too little? Isn’t it more likely that they have weighed the tradeoff between low wages and poor morale and chosen the combination that maximizes profits?
Microeconomics tells us that it is far more efficient to abolish the minimum wage and address poverty directly through the earned income tax credit or wage subsidies. This would imply that McDonald’s is actually enhancing social welfare by encouraging its employees to take advantage of food stamps and other safety net programmes. Economists know this, yet many advocate a higher minimum wage and disparage McDonald’s anyway. Why? As Noah Smith points out in a different post, “Probably because "earned" income gives people a feeling of dignity, while "handouts" reduce dignity.” (In some cases, it’s because Congress won’t offer up more money for the working poor, so a higher minimum wage is a second best solution; but as Republicans get behind wage subsidies, that may change.) In this case, economists are not acting as economists, but as philosophers.
They are doing the same in the debate over income inequality. Economists can offer explanations for why inequality has risen and what might reverse it, but they cannot advance positive reasons for what the right level of inequality is; this is function of social preferences outside the realm of empirical or even theoretical economics. (At least, they can’t make the case on microeconomic grounds. There are macroeconomic reasons to fret over higher inequality because shifting income from the high consuming poor to the high saving rich reduces aggregate demand.) Fundamentally, economists are troubled by inequality for the same reason non-economists are: it doesn’t seem right.(The Economist)
17 comments:
This article compares several economist’s theories and controlled experiments regarding the ongoing controversy of minimum wage. Several economists believe that raising the price of minimum wage would encourage workers and total worker turnover would decrease. Also, with low wages the employee’s productivity will decrease. As it says in the article Costco pays well above the minimum wage and practices the theory of efficiency wages to create employee morale and in the long run save money. On the other hand McDonalds chooses to pay minimum wage and have a tradeoff with maximum profits and poor employee morale. Also by McDonalds paying so low it enhances social welfare and food stamps. At the same time it hurts the employee because the feeling of handouts is not the same as the self-pleasure of earned money. In my opinion I believe that minimum wage should be raised so that an individual can support themselves on their income without government assistance.
-Vincent Vasheo
The views in this article displayed by economists are on the controversy of minimum wage and the differing views on microeconomics and macroeconomics. Many believe that increasing minimum wage would be a pro and would make a positive impact on the worker and personally I believe it would help the United States Government and its people/ Minimum wage workers settle the unrest and protest due the the demand for more money people have. The low wages that these people are complaining about is negative and slows down company and they aren't as efficient as a corporation would like their workers to be. As talked about in the article it states McDonalds pays their workers minimum wage, this sets a balance in the company establishing a tradeoff. McDonalds ends up making more money but the employees are not pleased by this for example all of the protest we see on the news today proves how these minimum wage workers are fighting for higher wages. I believe an increase in minimum wage is needed due to improve minimum wage workers lives and increase productivity for big corporations so they run smoothly and there is a steady flow in the American economy.
- Michael McGuire
This blog post addresses some very interesting points regarding the ongoing topic of minimum wage and brings to light some of the different viewpoints on it. On one hand, the point is made that studies have shown that increasing minimum wage has no significant impact on the abolishment of poverty and it actually may be harmful to employment. The higher the minimum pay is, the less jobs the company can afford to give. On the other hand, a very key statement was made regarding how individuals work differently in environments where the minimum wage is higher. The article states that employees who work in these higher paying jobs are encouraged to do better, be more productive, and tend to have higher morale. In the end, lower wage is said to be "bad for business" because of the outcomes such as low productivity or employee turnovers which lead to new and unwanted costs for the company. My favorite point that the article made was when the question regarding maximizing profits was asked.
"Isn’t it more likely that they have weighed the tradeoff between low wages and poor morale and chosen the combination that maximizes profits?" This set off a lightbulb in my head and gave me a whole new viewpoint on the topic. I didn't take a firm stand on either side at first so I was stranded somewhere in the middle of both ideals but this question made me realize that businesses set certain wage limits for a reason and that is because this idea of tradeoffs. In order to maximize profits for companies and maximize satisfaction for individuals, we must continue to live and thrive in that "give and take" world.
- JM
This article revolves around the issue of minimum wage in the United States and the different viewpoints between economists, both macro and micro. On one side of the argument economists believe that a raise in minimum wage would increase morale in the work place. As a result productivity would increase and thus stimulating the economy and reducing the country’s overall poverty level. An example used in the article is the retailer Costco who uses the efficiency wage theory and pays employees above the minimum wage. On the other side economists believe the complete opposite. These economists argue that raising the minimum wage would actually hurt the economy and poverty levels. I was always for raising the minimum wage but this article brought to mind an interesting point, tradeoff. The article states that most businesses probably analyze the tradeoff between wages and morale and choose a combination that will maximize profits. It opened my mind to the idea that maybe raising the minimum wage would hurt the economy, after all is it not a businesses’ goal to make profits. As of right now I still believe that the minimum wage should be raised, at least enough to cover the cost of living.
-Hernan Gallego
This article deals with the controversy of minimum wage and also addresses the differing views of macroeconomists and microeconomists. One side of the debate believes that increasing the minimum wage would increase work morale and ultimately increase productivity. The example used in the article is the retailer Costco who practices the “efficiency wage theory”…They pay their employees more than minimum wage in hopes of seeing increased productivity. The article supports the idea that paying a worker higher than minimum wage encourages them to perform better. The article also pointed out that lower wages are typically implemented to “save money”, when in reality, low productivity or a higher employer turnover rate can lead to new and unexpected costs.
The other side feels very differently. They feel that raising the minimum wage would actually hurt the economy and poverty levels. Small business that are not able to afford to pay their employees higher wages might have to close down.
I do believe that the minimum wage should be raised for big corporations that could theoretically “afford” it, however, I do not think that raising the minimum wage for the country, as a whole, would be beneficial.
This article explains the idea of higher minimum wage from a macroeconomists and macroeconomists point of views. It is believed by some that paying above minimum wage will increase earning and reduce poverty without jeopardizing employment. Also that the increase of minimum wage's would increase the morale of your works which will lead to increased productivity. Costco implements efficiency wage theory well, and they believe that if they didn't choose to pay their employees above minimum wage, it would lessen employee morale and productivity, and raise turnovers. On the other side of the argument, economists believe that raising minimum wage doesn't reduce poverty and does jeopardize employment.
This article also talks about how handouts reduces dignity, but I don't think this is true in every case. Recently, minimum wage for fast food workers was raised in Seattle. It will eventually phase into a $15 an hour minimum wage by 2022, and it will be raised to $11 on April 1st. Many people asked to be put on for less hours so that they still continued to get support from the government. So instead of taking the higher minimum wage and being able to earn their own money to buy their own things, they decided to still take these handouts. So in that specific case, it shows how not everyone will take full advantage of increasing minimum wage.
-Savanah Catucci
Minimum wage is a widely disputed topic in economics. There are studies that state raising the minimum wage would increase earnings and decrease poverty without affecting employment. Other studies state the opposite. The White House states lowering the minimum wage would jeopardize businesses because employees’ morale and productivity would decrease and employee turnover would increase. I believe the minimum wage should be increased. Raising the minimum wage may not solve poverty, but it will provide an economic stimulus because employees will be able to spend more, adjust for inflation, lower the turnover rate because employees will be less likely to quit with a high minimum wage, and because employees are spending more, businesses make more revenue and they can hire more people.
The highly disputed topic of minimum wage addressed in this article is a difficult problem to solve because of the infinite number of ways one can look at it. I personally believe that for the general welfare of the United States minimum wage should be increased; but economically speaking it is "unfair" to raise the bottom line of companies as all companies operate under their own individual circumstances. This article talked about how employees view minimum wage as handouts and thus it is not money they truly earned but money they were given; lowering overall self-esteem and dignity. I do not believe this to be true, as people who are working minimum wage jobs do so knowing that their wage is the minimum. I believe that rather than raising the minimum wage the government should advocate for personal improvement (i.e schooling, specific training,...etc) so minimum wage workers have more opportunities to better advance their position.
-Ari Hymowitz
There has and always will be a dispute when it comes to minimum wage. It brings up a question which has two answers based on the way you look at it. I think it is very interesting that it is not clear-cut whether or not raising the minimum wage will create less of a demand for low-skilled workers. In my opinion i think that minimum-wage is a tricky topic because we should be promoting higher education and better opportunities for those working in the lower class. The issue is also difficult because it is not clear if there is an inelastic demand for unskilled workers. Also, in both macro and micro there is a lot of research done to confirm the views of these economists. In the debate on minimum wage, even the White House has gotten in on the argument. The White House believes that low wages are bad for businesses because it can support low moral and output. It is clear, however, it would be hard to force businesses like Mcdonald's to pay higher wages , like Costco who decided to themselves. In a micro view on minimum wage it would be abolished and addressed directly because it would be efficient, but handouts like welfare actually reduce dignity. In the end , there will always be disagreement of whether or not the minimum wage should be raised and is almost a philosophical debate.
Morgan Ward
Minimum wage is a topic that many people have a different opinion on. One main view is to increase the minimum wage to better worker morale and productivity. As a result, the poverty level would decrease and people would be able to live a higher quality of life. Costco, for example, uses the "efficiency wage theory", which is to pay workers above minimum wage levels to increase productivity and morale. The other main view is that increasing minimum wage will hurt the economy because it decreases profits and then companies can only afford to hire less people. I agree that increasing the minimum wage gives people a feeling of dignity rather than keeping a low minimum wage to maximize profits and just receiving "handouts" ,such as wage subsidies or earned income tax credit.
Sabrina Ruggiero
This article summarizes the macro and microeconomic problems of minimum wage. It goes into details about how if the minimum wage was raised that morale and productivity would increase but on the other hand it is also stated in the article that just because higher pay doesn’t necessarily mean higher morale and productivity. In simpler terms, if workers hate the job to begin with at minimum wage chances are they are going to continue to hate it but just getting paid more. Another point that was brought up in the article was the difference between earning money and gaining dignity verses getting money handed to you and losing dignity. My viewpoint on the subject is that I see both sides and agree where each side is coming from, but personally I would rather earn my money and know that I worked for it rather than having some hypothetically say you wouldn’t have this if it wasn’t for me.
-Eva Hart
Minimum wage is a really important part of economics; it sets the standard of living for people. Whether its beneficial to raise it or lower it can always be debated. When you take two very different approaches as micro and macroeconomics are, many questions and points are raised. One point I feel it’s important to emphasize it’s that as we discussed in class is that every economic decision will have severe repercussions. We tend to believe that having minimum wage raising will be beneficial but that might not always be the truth, just like the article states raising minimum wage may be harmful for some businesses cause some may not be able to afford to do so even though companies who pay above minimum such as Costco have had positive effects on its employers. Another implication is that with a higher wage the prices are most likely to go up. In my opinion I believe that both viewpoints presented on this article are good, I believe it depends on where you are trying to change the minimum wage, the US as a right now and the world in general is facing a crisis and as for right now no drastic decisions such as changing the minimum wage should be taken until other economic problems are solved.
-Pablo Villacis
Cristina Alvarado:
This article stresses minimum wage being the impetus behind the global economic crisis. It states the economic fact that demand curves slope down, hence raising the price reduces the quantity demanded. As a student in microeconomics we learn that it is more efficient to abolish the minimum wage and address poverty directly throughout the earned income tax credit or wage subsidies. Based on microeconomics, companies like McDonalds are encouraging their employees to take advantage of social welfare. Stating that minimum wage is being raised so that people believe they are earning more instead of receiving handouts. I did not necessarily agree with the authors statement on the white house violating microeconomics. There are many reasons for and against raising the minimum wage. Yes it is better for college students like myself to make more then 8.75 an hour. However, in order for that to happen companies would have to raise prices, hence some customers not being able to afford their products or services. However, if people make more money they can afford to spend more. Unfortunately not everyone thinks the same and many have different views on what should be done to end the crisis. Minimum wage is just a small issue on the list of issues our country has to face.
-Cristina Alvarado
This article focuses on the minimum wage in the country and stating reasons why it should or should not be raised. Whether minimum wage increases or not, the qualifications for the job shouldn't be lowered due to the amount being paid. Minimum wage jobs shouldn't be viewed as an easy job to acquire. That's the problem I believe this country has, too many people that settle for less. In my opinion, the minimum wage shouldn't be raised. If anything, more options for education and other opportunities should be given. Doing something like that will prepare people for their futures, guaranteeing them a job that will probably pay more then the minimum wage.
-Diamond Melhado
One of the most talked about issues in economics, whether macro or micro, will always be the debate over minimum wage. The article states that businesses should not be forced to increase wages, rightfully so. Another main argument for minimum wage is that if you increase it, it increases the employee's motivation to work. I'd say in most cases that may be true, but the counter argument is why increase wages for low-skilled positions? This issue will continue to be controversial especially for the people arguing for higher wages.
I did not get to add a comment in time. But for my own purposes and maybe to help others I will comment. I think that this article focuses mainly on the aspect of the wages and how fluctuating it can be a good or bad thing whether we look at it in a macro lens or a micro lens. The main thing in my opinion is that if we increase it and increase it, prices will just follow it up the spiral. It's a well known theory and simple where if wages go up, prices go up, vice versa as well. So I think that governments shouldn't change the minimum wage often because this will be detrimental in the long run. I believe it would be more of a macro lens but even in micro you can see quick effects that carry over. But if the government chooses to raise the wage or lower it in good timely manors, then the problem won't be as great and that is what would be optimal.
-Alberto Monges
This article explains the issue in economics of the effect of the minimum wage. Whether macro or micro, the answer still seems to be the same of the simple fact of raising the minimum wage will reduce employment for the low skilled. It is mentioned by the White House that low wages are also bad for business, as paying low wages lowers employee morale, encourages low productivity and leads to frequent employee turnover. As we know in economics raising the price of something reduces the quantity demand. So knowing that, a minimum wage should reduce the demand for low-skilled workers. Whether the minimum wage increases or decreases the amount of qualifications for the job shouldn't lower. The debate over minimum wage will be an never ending crisis because everyone thinks differently.
- Marchelle Correa
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